Showing posts with label Dark Irregular. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Dark Irregular. Show all posts

Monday, 15 June 2015

From Budget to Competitive: Dark irregular Part 2



Welcome back to the second part of Budget to Competitive. We will continue to look into dark irregulars on a whole and compare both options available: Amon focused, and Scharlachrot.

Again I will list the pricing I used in previous article.

Noteables

I will mark the prices of all the options as *Worth getting, *not so budget unfriendly, and *super-budget unfriendly.

(RR) Scharlachrot Vampir ~$4-6 each, easily found
(RR) Flag Breaker ~ $3-4 each, easily found (Compulsory)
(RR) Squall Maker Vampir ~$2-3 each, easily found
(RRR) One Who is Abhorrent, Gilles de Rais ~$6-8 each, easily found
(PR) Flying Librarian ~$1-2 each, not so easy found
(RR) Doreen the thruster ~$6-9 each, very hard to acquire
(PR) Psychic of Ash, Hadar ~ $25+ per legion pair, very hard to acquire
(PR) Astaroth Legion ~$7-9 per legion pair, not so easy found
(RR) Yellow Bolt ~$2-3 each, not so easily found
(R) Alluring Succubus ~$2-3 each, very hard to find
(RR) Great Demon, Soulless Demagogue ~ $1-2 each, easily found
(RRR) Amon's Claw, Marchocias ~$2-3 each, not so easily found
(RRR) Demon Marquis, Amon "Яeverse" ~$5-6 each, not so easily found
(RR) Amon's Follower, Vlad Specula ~$4-5 each, not so easily found

Di C and R play sets from GBT03: ~$10 for play set, easily found
Dark knight of nightmareland ~$2 for play set, not so easy
Hysteric Shirley ~$2 for play set, not so easy
Most C ~$1 for 5, most R ~$2 for play set

Now here is the rough breakdown for prices I would use for my decks:

Total price breakdown for Amon if buying singles:
4 Amon Яeverse ~$20
2 Astaroth set ~$16
2 Gilles ~$12
3 Marchocias ~$9
4 Flag breaker ~ $14

total: $71 +

Total price breakdown for Scharlachrot if buying singles:
4 Scharlachrot ~$20
4 Squall Maker ~$8
2-3 Librarian ~$4
4 Flag breaker ~ $16
4 Gilles ~$24

total: $74+

The price breakdown isn't very far off after doing the math. Its just that Amon have more early game and soul charge potential, but are reasonably harder to acquire. Scharlachrot is much easier to acquire, and people will likely be selling the entire deck for reasonable price. Both decks have the pros and cons, so pick what you like!

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Some Thoughts

Doreen the thruster vs Lunatic Masquerade
Price: $6-9 vs $0.2
So Doreen is something MANY DI players will consider a must have. Personally i think otherwise. She promotes bulk soul charging, has use pre-stride, has a higher number possible compared to Lunatic, and has almost 3000% price increase compared to Lunatic, and is rather difficult to acquire. And if you comparing turns where there is no soul charging involved (like when you are 6-7 cards from decking out), she is weaker than Lunatic, which is always a stable 11K by then.  Not to say she is bad, but she and predator tends to lure newer DI players to spam their SC effects just to keep numbers up across multiple turns, which I feel is just gonna make decking out a real thing. You have to pace your SC effects to get the most out of DI, and unless it is final turn or you need the souls, I suggest trying not to aim for high soul count just to make Doreen work, but rather get her to benefit off the incidental soul charge effects you have.

Shirley vs Monochrome
Price: $0.25 vs $0.2
This is a matter of preference, as I feel if you are even going to stride even once, Monochrome performs better. Granted Shirley is 2 SC during main phase, Monochrome lets you do 2 things DI does not have often: drawing cards and countercharge. You give up a 10k shield, but you make up for it with another use of an important skill like Bar maid or either Vampir, while recycling a stand trigger back to deck and a draw. So I feel even if your deck sorely needs draw like in Amon, even Amon have very huge front row during either stride, so it is in favor of Monochrome.

Astaroth vs Hadar
Price: $8 vs $20+
Based on card pool available, Astaroth gets to dip into the entire Amon card pool, which has some of the most efficient SC engine possible. He is also a legion with always crit pressure, and a mate that is still strong even if you had to ride it. Hadar is the more generic legion, and with the printing of Rigil it is possible to make a grade 3 line-up of both Rigil and Hadar. Only real problem is getting Hadar legion set. As of this writing the price has seen a crazy spike, due to the demand for the mate, which is good in any legion DI deck. So if you wallet is hurting, Astaroth is being printed as a legion pair promo and more easily available as compared to the now low print Hadar legion.

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Decklists:
Fanart Amon "Яeverse" From  Franky Kesuma

Amon list

Grade 0: 18
2 Bar maid Grace (FVG)
4 Hell's trick (heal)
4 Grausam (effect crit)
4 Cruel Hand (crit)
4 Monochrome (stand)

Grade 1: 13
4 Flag breaker (PGG)
2 Pure love succubus
3 Hell's deal
4 Phu Gremlin

Grade 2:11
4 Ron Gremlin
4 Hell's Draw
3 Hell's Nail

Grade 3: 8
2 Amon
4 Amon "Яeverse"
2 Astaroth

Grade 4: 8
2 Gilles
2 Demagouge
3 Marchocias
1 Kisskill Lila

Now the plan for this list is full balls aggro. Your main stride will be Demagouge as you soul charge set up, and Marchocias for big swing turns. Grilles is strictly a finisher, and if you ended up having 2 bar maid in play, we can easily see a 66k+ Grilles with glory and double crit, which is quite game over for most people. Astaroth is there in the event you starting to deck out, as most of the time you will be spend as reverse, hopefully have the crossride through all the soul charging. You can swap Phu Gremlin for Doreen if you want, but no more than 2, as I find Phu useful even late game as emergency attackers.

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Stride Era's Amon

Scharlachrot build

Grade 0: 17
1 Werbat Ordonnanz
4 Alice (heal)
4 Monochrome (stand)
4 Weretiger (crit)
4 Dark knight (crit)

Grade 1: 13
4 Flag Breaker (PGG)
3 Lunatic Masquarede (11k booster @ 10 soul)
4 Pure love Succubus (stride fodder)
2 killing dollmaster

Grade 2: 12
2 Flying Librarian
4 Knife conducter
3 Izyla (legion mate)
3 Squall Maker Vampir

Grade 3: 8
4 Scharlachrot Vampir
3 Hadar (legion)

Grade 4: 8
2 KissKill Lila
4 Gilles
2 Demagouge

This is very similar to previous budget list except for the inclusion of 2nd set of Grilles and 2 Librarian and Legion. I find librarian's really decent even though it is only 8k, as we have mainly Lunatic as a booster. We have some strong 21k columns in squall maker or any column with lunatic (at 6 soul he is 9k boost, which is 21k with knife conductor), while VG column is a threat by itself thanks to stride and GB2. Same deal as previous deck; where you have to pace your SC or else you risk decking out. It is definitely less aggressive than Amon, but you have more card advantage, and therefore less likely to run out of gas. Legion is there for the end game when you still have not killed your opponent, and can help you purge triggers out of the soul to legion back.
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So what do you guys think?  I am currently working on a DP and GP deck, and posting my NG deck that I main. Leave your comments on what you want to see next!

Wednesday, 10 June 2015

From Budget to Competitive: Dark irregular Part 1



Its time for me to do a new budget deck. This time after a few people's suggestion I decided to try making a dark irregular deck. Thanks to the availability of it in the recent GBT03 booster, and how many top tier players find it weak. I have decided to look at what is possible for making this deck work and work out a cost-efficient means to play this deck.

This time round I will try a different approach towards making the deck. I will first look up all the possible cards we can add, availability, and price range, before deciding on options. Based on a little digging and some running around Singapore, this is the price range I could get for these:

Noteable Pricing:

I will mark the prices of all the options as *Worth getting*not so budget unfriendly, and *super-budget unfriendly.

(RR) Scharlachrot Vampir ~$4-6 each, easily found
(RR) Flag Breaker ~ $3-4 each, easily found (Compulsory)
(RR) Squall Maker Vampir ~$2-3 each, easily found
(RRR) One Who is Abhorrent, Gilles de Rais ~$6-8 each, easily found
(PR) Flying Librarian ~$1-2 each, not so easy found
(RR) Doreen the thruster ~$6-9 each, very hard to acquire
(RR) Emblem Master ~$2-5 each, very hard to acquire
(PR) Psychic of Ash, Hadar ~ $25+ per legion pair, very hard to acquire
(PR) Astaroth Legion ~$7-9 per legion pair, not so easy found
(RR) Yellow Bolt ~$2-3 each, not so easily found
(R) Alluring Succubus ~$2-3 each, very hard to find
(RR) Great Demon, Soulless Demagogue ~ $1-2 each, easily found
(RRR) Amon's Claw, Marchocias ~$2-3 each, not so easily found
(RRR) Demon Marquis, Amon "Яeverse" ~$5-6 each, not so easily found
(RR) Amon's Follower, Vlad Specula ~$4-5 each, not so easily found


Dark knight of nightmareland ~$2 for play set, not so easy
Hysteric Shirley ~$2 for play set, not so easy
Most C ~$1 for 5, most R ~$2 for play set
Di C and R play sets from GBT03: ~$10 for play set, easily found (see image)



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He's our main man... I mean Vampir...
Since we are going about the cheaper and more easily available cards, it effectively makes our deck revolve around striding, You have to play 4 Flag breaker and 4 Scharlachrot Vampir, and 2 Gilles to have a decent chance against most decks. That is ~$47+ cost already. If you include the C and R bundle, that's close to $60. So while this deck is reasonably cheap, its not one of those super budget ones.

If you are lucky and are one of the few who bought box slots @ ~$50 for 8 slots, you might get most of this for a really good deal and have spares to either trade for what you need or sell spare C and R! The rest of you don't give up! Check up trade forums and have a look out at stores and player base to see if they have any sweet deals for these. Its entirely possible to get this under $50 if they are desperate enough to let them go!

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Deck List:
Budget Dark Irregular

Grade 0: 17
1 Werbat Ordonnanz
4 Alice (heal)
4 Monochrome (stand)
4 Weretiger (crit)
4 Dark knight (crit)*

Grade 1: 13
4 Flag Breaker (PGG)
3 Lunatic Masquarede
4 Pure love Succubus (stride fodder)
3 Killing dollmaster

Grade 2: 11
4 Knife conducter
4 Werewolf Jaeger
3 Squall Maker Vampir


Grade 3: 4
4 Scharlachrot Vampir
4 Sweet Predator

Grade 4:
4 KissKill Lila
2 Gilles
2 Demagouge**

* Its not found in GBT03, but you will definitely get a play set in your DI playing career, so just grab them from stall if possible.
** This is particularly strong with Starter + stride skill adding 6 cards to soul in 1 turn. It is a bulk RR in FC15, so its reasonably easy to acquire.

Total cost: ~$60

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Winning Image:
Stride every turn and make 21k columns. Lunatic + either Knife or werewolf will make 21k columns with little effort, while squall with any booster makes 21k column for 1 CB. Ideally you have 3 soul breakpoints; 6 (Scharlachrot stride skill), 10 (other effects) and 15 (Gilles). It is extremely vital NOT to rush to 15. Take it slow and reap the benefits off Scharlachrot stride skill to retire, and only go to 15 for the kill. Sweet predator is mostly fodder or an extra RG attacker, but you can push her up through dark knight, monochrome, werebat or dollmaster, also making columns.

My favorite G1 for this deck. Works like a Doreen, but none of the commitments required! 


Disclaimer: This is the base required for the deck to function properly. Trust me, it works out fine if you pace your soul charging. You don't have to all in at once, and take a while to whittle down opponent with 21k+ columns. You get decent advantage off Kisskill + Scharlachrot + monochrome, so you can still stay afloat while you hammer away at your opponent.

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Next time round I will talk more about possible improvements, as well as look into building towards the Amon sub clan as well. Till then, leave some comments and share your opinions! Let me know if you prefer the older format or this format.